Harnessing BIM Technology and Integrated Project Delivery for Sustainable Design
May 14 - Track B - Stitching BIM Software Into a Business Strategy
Einhorn Yaffee Prescott, Architecture & Engineering PC.
John Pocorobba
John Tobin
Last session of the two day conference. How many people are BIMed out? I am.
This is an AE firm and thus have a certain idea on how to implement BIM.
Agenda
The big picture
Challenges/Tensions
Comprehensive BIM Map
Takeaways
Q/A
Myths and expectations
Definition of BIM
The Big Picture – Saving Time and Money. Client expectations are rising due in part to projects like the GM project and the Denver Art Museum.
We are going over the 5 challenges/Tensions:
1. Interoperability – People/ Software
2. Value
3. Compensation
4. Services
5. Risk Management
Bim Map
Guiding principles
Sources: seminar, articles, aia, agc, vendors, etc
Challenges/tensions
Putting pieces together
Big difference between Space management and Virtual Building
John is suggesting that there are 4 levels of BIM. He arrays these against the 5 challenges laid out previously.
Level 1: Space Management Model – client has a desire to track spaces – this Level 1 model is almost automatic if you are using a BIM tool. This could even be 2.5 D as stacked plans
Model components: Spaces, walls roof and floor, systems, finishes, no structure, no equipment
Level 2 Major Systems Model – inventory or all major equipment in the building.
Model components: Spaces with detailed info, Detailed Assembly of wall roof and floor, all systems – plumbing fixtures ducts, lights, panels
Finishes detailed moldings
Structure – full framing
Equipment – all
Level 3 Simulation Model – 4D, 5D, 6D Analysis – Decision Making – Real Time Looping – Collaboration Downstream
Model components: Spaces-detailed plus environmental
Walls roof, floor – detailed + thermal
Systems – Full Active
Finishes – Detailed reflectance
Etc.
Level 4 Integrated Practice – Full Collaboration – Model is contract document – Model to Fabrication
Model components – Very detailed + Operation and Maintenance – virtual contract
Compensation:
Traditional compensation scale is no longer relevant. Fees between a level 3 and Level 4 Model rises exponentially. Fee distribution will need to move forward in the project and phases will morph and be defined differently than the future.
Risk management
Agreements
-CADD Release
-AIA C106 – Digital Data Licensing
-AIA E201 – Digital Data Protocol
Permitted Use/Accuracy of Data
Integrated Delivery Contracts
Takeaways
Does your Firm “Do Bim?”
How to address BIM:
-Address the Puzzle Pieces
-Comprehensive, Clear, Concise
-Evolving…Be Responsive to the marketplace
-Educate – Your Staff, Clients, Construction Partners
Questions:
Changing requirements for Staff? Specifically Drafters?
up/down mentoring of staff – accelerating learning
less value for drafters because they will be in demand less – there is still a lot of drafting in BIM its just a new interface.
What software are you using for the 4D-5D-6D that you mentioned? We use Navisworks for 4D – There are some other cost estimating software’s
that are starting to come out.
In the Value vs Work effort graph have the clients agreed with you? We have not done a level 4 model but we have been compensated for level 1 and level 2. We try to educate the client and describe to them the different levels.
John Pocorobba
John Tobin
Last session of the two day conference. How many people are BIMed out? I am.
This is an AE firm and thus have a certain idea on how to implement BIM.
Agenda
The big picture
Challenges/Tensions
Comprehensive BIM Map
Takeaways
Q/A
Myths and expectations
Definition of BIM
The Big Picture – Saving Time and Money. Client expectations are rising due in part to projects like the GM project and the Denver Art Museum.
We are going over the 5 challenges/Tensions:
1. Interoperability – People/ Software
2. Value
3. Compensation
4. Services
5. Risk Management
Bim Map
Guiding principles
Sources: seminar, articles, aia, agc, vendors, etc
Challenges/tensions
Putting pieces together
Big difference between Space management and Virtual Building
John is suggesting that there are 4 levels of BIM. He arrays these against the 5 challenges laid out previously.
Level 1: Space Management Model – client has a desire to track spaces – this Level 1 model is almost automatic if you are using a BIM tool. This could even be 2.5 D as stacked plans
Model components: Spaces, walls roof and floor, systems, finishes, no structure, no equipment
Level 2 Major Systems Model – inventory or all major equipment in the building.
Model components: Spaces with detailed info, Detailed Assembly of wall roof and floor, all systems – plumbing fixtures ducts, lights, panels
Finishes detailed moldings
Structure – full framing
Equipment – all
Level 3 Simulation Model – 4D, 5D, 6D Analysis – Decision Making – Real Time Looping – Collaboration Downstream
Model components: Spaces-detailed plus environmental
Walls roof, floor – detailed + thermal
Systems – Full Active
Finishes – Detailed reflectance
Etc.
Level 4 Integrated Practice – Full Collaboration – Model is contract document – Model to Fabrication
Model components – Very detailed + Operation and Maintenance – virtual contract
Compensation:
Traditional compensation scale is no longer relevant. Fees between a level 3 and Level 4 Model rises exponentially. Fee distribution will need to move forward in the project and phases will morph and be defined differently than the future.
Risk management
Agreements
-CADD Release
-AIA C106 – Digital Data Licensing
-AIA E201 – Digital Data Protocol
Permitted Use/Accuracy of Data
Integrated Delivery Contracts
Takeaways
Does your Firm “Do Bim?”
How to address BIM:
-Address the Puzzle Pieces
-Comprehensive, Clear, Concise
-Evolving…Be Responsive to the marketplace
-Educate – Your Staff, Clients, Construction Partners
Questions:
Changing requirements for Staff? Specifically Drafters?
up/down mentoring of staff – accelerating learning
less value for drafters because they will be in demand less – there is still a lot of drafting in BIM its just a new interface.
What software are you using for the 4D-5D-6D that you mentioned? We use Navisworks for 4D – There are some other cost estimating software’s
that are starting to come out.
In the Value vs Work effort graph have the clients agreed with you? We have not done a level 4 model but we have been compensated for level 1 and level 2. We try to educate the client and describe to them the different levels.
Replies to This Discussion
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Permalink Reply by lesley hayes on -
there are 4 owners in this session-1 engineer-2 bloggers-and the rest architects
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Permalink Reply by Brian Frels / RTKL on -
Have you read the contractors guide to BIM? I’m thinking I should check it out. I wonder how long ago it was written.
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Permalink Reply by Rex Miller on
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Brian this is a good overview and primer. The book Big Bim/Little Bim seems to be the best intro to both the technology and the mindset behind BIM.
Have you seen any of the sessions address the leadership capacity that can bring a change in the culture and a shift toward collaboration with the other stakeholders in the process?
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Permalink Reply by Brian Frels / RTKL on
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Hey Rex.
I'll check out Big Bim/Little BIM. I think I've got a pretty good hold of the Architect's side of BIM but I'd like to broaden my perspective. Now that we all know what BIM is and most of us are using it for various reasons I think it might be time to seek some more global perspectives. Although its pretty far out there, I think Kimon is the closest thing I've seen illustrating the type of collaboration your suggesting.
I just realized that this was you. I've had your RSS feed on my igoogle page for awhile now. Good stuff.
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